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Conversion is all in the head

Posted by colonelcold on September 16, 2008

Several churches in Mangalore were attacked on September 14 2008 by Bajrang Dal activists. Rs 200000 worth damage was done. The police instead of protecting, used tear gas against the peaceful protesters and started to throw stone inside the churches, as a self defense some of the protesters started to throw stones at the police as a result many innocent peaceful protesters were beaten by the police and taken into custody.

The government backed group called Bajrang dal claim that this was done in response to the conversions happening in the country. Bajrang Dal took the law in it’s own hands without any negotiations or warning.

So what is conversion?? Oxford dictionary states “Religious conversion is the adoption of a new religious identity, or a change from one religious identity to another”

So conversion is the individuals choice and choices are made in the mind. Who can control the mind? The way the government is accusing the Christians implies that Christians have created some kind of brain control device which controls people decisions in which case Christians should get a noble prize for such a invention. (Which Soviets, Americans and Chinese had tried to develop from so many years and failed!!!)

Who are being converted?? People who are interested in Christ’s teachings come to the church which we cannot stop. Christian institutions have a large role to play in education, medicine, caring for the orphans, abandoned, old and dying in India. When people see these things naturally are attracted to the religion. Who is stopping the bajrang dal from doing such good works as the christians, they too will get converts to their religion. Bajrang Dal does not want to do anything good neither do they want others to do good which leaves the poor and destitute in further misery.

Who has the problem with conversions?? Ask any person who has converted to Christianity if has any problem with conversion??  Why are the already converted people silenced?? If these people have no problem why does the BJP government (and Bajrang Dal a terrorist group backed by the government) are worried and take up arms and destroying property and lathi charge innocent peaceful protesters??

What is being done to protect Christian Community?? To keep it simple NOTHING!!!! Instead the government had ordered to summoned the situation by baised media coverage to cover up their faults. The police have beaten up innocent protesters which include women and nuns. And fired smoke grenedes inside the church.

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Attacks on Churches and Christians in India – Violence in Mangalore

Posted by colonelcold on September 15, 2008

Section 144 has just been clamped on Mangalore city.

Police resorted to lathi charge and throwing tear gas grenades at peaceful protesters where a number of nuns and women were injured and had to be taken to hospital.

What the hell is wrong with our country and its people? (I would not normally use such strong language in print, but it doesn’t even begin to demonstrate how strongly I feel)

Yesterday morning (i.e 14 sep) between 9am and 10am, Bajrang Dal activists attacked and destroyed 4 churches in Mangalore City.

Why? Because New Life members distributed pamphlets which said “Do not Worship Hindu Gods”
While I admit that this could be an incendiary statement, does this justify attacking people and churches who do not even agree with the methods used by the New Life preachers?
Does this justify attacking members of a church, who have not had anything to do with conversions or preaching and just listen?

Let’s look at the issues here:
1. The Bajrang Dal resorts to violence because of something that is printed that they do not agree with.
2. When the Bajrang Dal says that conversions are illegal, (and all the other things they do with tis as their cause) aren’t they infact enforcing that “you cannot worship any God other than a Hindu God”
3. The New Life Church is a relative newcomer, known to be more hardline than most other churches which distance themselves from them. Shouldn’t the Bajrang Dal have at least distinguished that?
4. Even if they did not agree with what was printed by the New Life church in India, couldn’t they try having a dialog with them first, before resorting to violence.
Looks like the hooligans behind these attacks are only interested in breaking bones and getting their adrenaline pumping rather than really trying to sort out any kinds of problems or misunderstandings.

The ruffians broke all the religious statues in the Sisters of Poor Clare’s Adoration Monastery. They threw the Holy Eucharist on the ground and desecrated it.
Is this OK, just because it is being done against Catholics/Christians in India who have historically been as non-violent as the Jains and buddhists (other minorities) in India?

Concerned members of the churches gathered in the church grounds during and after evening mass in a peaceful way to seek assurance and guidance from the priests and other religious. Wasn’t this a peaceful gathering compared to mobs rampaging and torching buses because of some mud smeared on Meenatai’s statue? or The countrywide riots following a desecration of an Ambedkar statue in Kanpur? The second incident was also of smeared mud. Both the desecration happened on public roads. This does not make it right, but compare this to religious statues being broken on private property, the Holy Eucharist (which Christians believe is the body of Christ once it is blessed) thrown on the ground. Do not Christians have a right to congregate to discuss their fears following such incidents.

Remember the Christians were gathering in peace outside their place of worship (since the insides of the church were full) not going out and torching buses or hurting other innocent people.

To add fuel to the fire, the police arrived. No issues with their arriving where crowds had gathered, but they started lathi charging the gathered people and seriously injured nuns and women among the crowd and threw tear bombs inside the church where Sunday evening mass was being held. A religious ceremony, a peaceful ceremony, held everyday inside these churches.

Was this responsible on the part of the police to use force and violence against unarmed, peaceful members of the public?

People present at the scene said that the police themselves were pelting stones at the crowd and caning them, hurting both people and damaging property in the vicinity.

The news channels started to broadcast about this and then completely hushed up. I turned on my India feed of NDTV which promised for 15 minutes to show an update and news about Mangalore city and suddenly it stopped showing those banners without showing any news about what had happened. Looks like someone high in the political chain, got to them and yanked the news off the air.

Now take 2-3 other incidents into perspective.
On 29th August over 40,000 Christian Educational Institutions across India stayed closed to register a peaceful protest against the continuing violence against Christians in Orissa which has now spread to 13 out of 30 districts.

On the same day, the government of Karnataka announced its decision to take action against Christian schools in the state for closing without prior permission.

This same government has yet to take action against the Akhila Bharatiya Vidyarthi Parishat and RSS workers, who had launched violent protests when the JD (S) failed to hand over the state reins to the BJP last year.

Is it any surprise that both Karnataka and Orissa currently have the BJP in power?

The VHP held violent protests in Madhya Pradesh and other places asking why the Christians had killed Saraswati? (by shutting educational institutions for a day) What about all the occasions when the BJP/VHP/Bajrang Dal/Shiv Sena and other Hindu organisations force schools, colleges and business to shut shutter for their own bundhs which destroy all normalcy in the cities?

Why are these double standards in play? Why are Christians being given the short end of the stick? Religious Christian institutions have a large role to play in education, medicine, caring for the orphans, abandoned, old and dying in India. Christians have been one of the most tolerant minorities in India (imagine what would have happened by now if by chance the Bajrang Dal hooligans had desecrated a mosque this morning) who have contributed immensely to the growth of the country. Why this treatment? Do they deserve it?

Do they deserve a government that is apathetic to their religious sensibilities being trampled upon?

Christians have always believed in being peace loving, patient and tolerant. Will the Christian youth of today continue to be as tolerant when they see the atrocities being committed against their brethren in Orissa and the North East?

Why are these atrocities against Christians being downplayed in the media? (Try googling for the attack against Christians in India and see how many Indian media links pop up) or watch any major national news channels. Why aren’t they being given coverage? Is it because the powers-that-be know that they aren’t doing a thing to control, controllable situations and the miscreants in their party? Is it because the powers-that-be know that the Christians haven’t ever retaliated with violence? How long will the Christians community be able to react with tolerance and peace? (2 values that a lot of Indians in the news seem to have completely forgotten about)

Make sure you check out these links:

http://www.mangalorean.com/news.php?newstype=broadcast&broadcastid=93154

http://www.daijiworld.com/news/news_disp.asp?n_id=51171&n_tit=Mangalore%3A%20Bandh%20Total%2C%20Roads%20Blocked%2C%20Security%20Forces%20Keep%20Vigil

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